E163: Elias Abuelazam

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This week Beth and Wendy discuss the case of Elias Abuelazam, an Arab-Israeli man living in the US who was convicted of stabbing a man to death in Flint Michigan in 2010, but he likely stabbed at least 18 people in total, killing 5.

First, we dive into the setting (07:26), the killer’s early life (16:55) and the timeline (20:33).  Then, we get into the investigation & arrest (37:45), “Where are they now?” (51:47) followed by our takeaways and what we think made the perp snap.  

As usual we close out the show with some tips on how not to get murdered and our shout outs (01:01:34). 

This episode was researched & scripted by Minnie Williams.

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Footnotes

Articles/Websites

Wikipedia contributors. (04/09/2022). Elias Abuelazam. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 06/27/2022 from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_Abuelazam

Murderpedia. (n.d.). Elias Abuelazam. Retrieved 06/30/2022 from https://murderpedia.org/male.A/a/abuelazam-elias.htm

Ferran, L., Chapman, C., and Wetenhall, J. (08/13/2010). Number of Stabbing Victims Linked to Elias Abuelazam Grows to 20. ABC News. Retrieved 06/30/2022 from https://abcnews.go.com/US/TheLaw/serial-stabbing-suspect-elias-abuelazam-gentle-giant-alleged/story?id=11391814&page=3

Damron, G. (08/14/2010). Loved ones recall different man. Detroit Free Press. Retrieved 06/30/2022 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/364100326/?terms=%22Elias%20Abuelazam%22&match=1

Damron, G., Helms, M., Meyer, Z., Anderson, E., and Schaefer, J. (08/13/2010). Tips, videotapes led to arrest. Detroit Free Press. Retrieved 06/30/2022 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/364098758/?terms=%22Elias%20Abuelazam%22&match=1

Damron, G. (06/26/2012). Flint man sentenced to life for stabbing. Detroit Free Press. Retrieved 06/30/2022 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/108249247/?terms=%22Elias%20Abuelazam%22&match=1

White, E. (05/23/2012). Drifter convicted of Flint murder. Detroit Free Press. Retrieved 06/30/2022 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/108236407/?terms=%22Elias%20Abuelazam%22&match=1

White, E. (05/09/2012). He left behind his own blood. Detroit Free Press. Retrieved 06/30/2022 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/481055820/?terms=%22Elias%20Abuelazam%22&match=1

White, E. (06/26/2012). Man gets life in stabbing. Detroit Free Press. Retrieved 06/30/2022 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/481012491/?terms=%22Elias%20Abuelazam%22&match=1

White, E. (05/12/2012). As serial stabbings case winds down, insanity claim in dispute. Detroit Free Press. Retrieved 06/30/2022 from https://www.newspapers.com/image/108235949/?terms=%22Elias%20Abuelazam%22&match=1

Harris, D. (05/25/2012). Catching a serial killer: How they got Elias Abuelazam. Mlive. Retrieved 07/04/2022 from https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2012/05/the_story_of_the_capture_of_fl.html

Casetext. (01/16/2018). Abuelazam v. DeAngelo-Kipp.  Retrieved 07/04/2022 from https://casetext.com/case/abuelazam-v-deangelo-kipp

CBS Detroit. (05/05/2012). Uncle Helped Suspected Flint Serial Stabber. Retrieved 07/04/2022 from https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2011/05/05/uncle-helped-flint-serial-stabbing-suspect/

Harris, D. (05/09/2012). Uncle of accused serial killer Elias Abuelazam testifies he bought nephew a ticket to Israel. Mlive. Retrieved 07/04/2022 from https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2012/05/suspected_serial_killer_elias_18.html

Harris, D. (05/09/2012). Suspected serial killer Elias Abuelazam’s uncle testifies about days around alleged attacks. Mlive. Retrieved 07/04/2022 from https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2012/05/suspected_serial_killer_elias_17.html

MDOC Department of Corrections. (2022). Biographical Information MDOC Number:842658. Retrieved 07/07/2022 from https://mdocweb.state.mi.us/OTIS2/otis2profile.aspx?mdocNumber=842658

Michigan.gov. (2022). Ionia Correctional Facility (ICF). Retrieved 07/07/2022 from https://www.michigan.gov/corrections/Prisons/Ionia-Correctional-Facility

Harris, D. (08/08/2011). One year after serial killer attacks, law enforcement, victims want justice. Mlive. Retrieved 07/07/2022 from https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2011/08/one_year_after_serial_killer_a.html

Schuch, S. (12/16/2010). Family of Darwin Marshall waits a little longer for closure; preliminary hearing for accused serial killer continues next month. Mlive. Retrieved 07/07/2022 from https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2010/12/family_of_darwin_marshall_wait.html

History

Wikipedia contributors. (06/26/2022). Israel. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 06/28/2022 from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

Wikipedia contributors. (06/26/2022). Ramla. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 06/28/2022 from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramla

Wikipedia contributors. (04/30/2022). Arab Jews. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 07/04/2022 from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Jews?fbclid=IwAR01KoF7o9K0bzntaRPdq9MEuld6bZGiOI3M0f5nkcmwfGA8ROkCNE8EQcA

Margalit, Avishai. (02/07/2013). Palestine: How Bad, & Good, Was British Rule? The New York Review. Retrieved 07/16/2022 from https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2013/02/07/palestine-how-bad-and-good-was-british-rule/

History. (07/13/2017). Zionism. Retrieved 07/16/2022 from https://www.history.com/topics/middle-east/zionism

Holocaust Encyclopedia. (n.d.). Pogroms. Retrieved 07/16/2022 from https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/pogroms

Lipka, Michael. (05/25/2016). Israeli Jews, Arabs have different perspectives on discrimination in their society. Pew Research Center. Retrieved 07/16/2022 from https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/05/25/most-israeli-jews-do-not-see-a-lot-of-discrimination-in-their-society/

Fisher, Max. (05/19/2015). The 11 biggest myths about Israel-Palestine. Vox. Retrieved 07/16/2022 from https://www.vox.com/2015/5/14/18093732/israel-palestine-misconceptions

Podcasts

Dan Snow’s History Hit. Israel and Palestine: An Israeli Perspective with Benny Morris
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/israel-palestine-israeli-perspective-benny-morris/id1042631089?i=1000523465086

Dan Snow’s History Hit. Israel and Palestine: A Palestinian View with Yara Hawari
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/israel-and-palestine-a-palestinian-view-with-yara-hawari/id1042631089?i=1000521880203

Instead, Nina. Already gone. The Flint Serial Slasher 06/15/2020. [Audio Podcast] Retrieved on 7/13/22 from  https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvYmM1NTliMDgtMzU4Yi00NDJhLTgxYjYtYTk2MDAwNTU5ODI5L2M1ZmFlMDk0LTBlNzUtNDg0MC04YjBkLWE5YWQwMTE2YmEzYi9jZjUwNTA0MS0yZjcyLTQ1MDItYjg3Ni1hOWFkMDExNmJhM2IvcG9kY2FzdC5yc3M/episode/ZmY2MWJjNzItODkzMS00ZDQ1LWJmYzgtYWJkYTAxOGE5NGVk?ep=14

Wiborg- Thune, Thomas Rosseland. Elias Abuelazam. 1/6/2017. The Serial Killer Podcast [Audio Podcast]. Retrieved on 7/13/22 from https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5hY2FzdC5jb20vcHVibGljL3Nob3dzLzRiMjJjMzk5LTIwYzAtNDYzZC1hZThlLTliMTk4MjlmYzVjZg/episode/MTc3MDA3Ng?ep=14

Morning Cup of Murder.  The Flint Michigan Slasher- August 11, 2021- Todays True Crime. 8/11/2021. [Audio Podcast] Retrieved on 7/13/22 from  https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9hdWRpb2Jvb20uY29tL2NoYW5uZWxzLzUwNDEwNjQucnNz/episode/dGFnOmF1ZGlvYm9vbS5jb20sMjAyMS0wOC0xMDovcG9zdHMvNzkyMTk2NQ?ep=14

Hayes, Chris. MSNBC & NBCNews THINK. Inside Palestine with Rashid Khalidi. 7/13/21. Why is This Happening [Audio Podcast] Retrieved on 7/14/22 from  https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9wb2RjYXN0ZmVlZHMubmJjbmV3cy5jb20vd2l0aA/episode/ZDliMTYzMWUtNzJjMi00NjMwLThiYzUtY2I1MTFhYjA3MjU1?ep=14

Felix. UNLOCKED- In Conclusion, Palestine is a Land of Contrasts Feat. @Intifadarling (5/23/18).  6/1/18. Chapo Trap House. [Audio Podcast] Retrieved on 7/13/22 from https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjIxMTkxMTcwMC9zb3VuZHMucnNz/episode/dGFnOnNvdW5kY2xvdWQsMjAxMDp0cmFja3MvNDUyMzM3Nzk4?ep=14

Schroeder, Daniel and John, Derek (producers). ICYMI:  Should you Post That Israel-Palestine Meme?. 5/19/21. Slate Culture. [Audio Podcast]  Retrieved on 7/15/22 from https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vc2xhdGVzY3VsdHVyZWdhYmZlc3Q/episode/MGEzNWI3MzYtYjgzNy0xMWViLTkzNGEtYTcxZDE5ZjEwNGRl?ep=14

Video

The Ghost Killer | Twisted Killers S1E9
https://www.oxygen.com/twisted-killers/season-1/episode-9/the-ghost-killer

Serial Slasher | Blood, Lies & Alibis S2E3
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0749B36SD/

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