E24: Charles Ng and the Miranda Murders

In this weeks episode Beth and Wendy get into the weeds on Charles Ng, a Chinese-American serial killer who was sentenced to death after torturing and killing up to 25 people with Leonard Lake at Lake’s California cabin. We’ve heard lots about Leonard Lake (the white guy) but this episode is all about Charles Ng.


Date of murders 1983 – 1985 in Wilseyville, Calif., (northern California)

MO: abduction, torture, rape and murder for financial gain and sexual gratification.

Victims: 11 to 25

(Altogether, the bodies of seven men, three women, two baby boys and 45 pounds of bone fragments would be recovered from the cabin that they rented and built a bunker)

Harvey Dubs, 29
Deborah Dubs, 33
Sean Dubs, infant
Lonnie Bond Sr., 27
Brenda O’Connor, 19
Lonnie Bond Jr., infant
Clifford Peranteau, 24
Robin Scott Stapley, 24
Jeffrey Dean Gerald, 25
Michael Carroll, 23
Kathleen Allen, 18
Donald Giuletti, 38* (no picture)
Paul Steven Cosner, 39*

Randy Johnson*

The known victims of Ng and Lake


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Charles Ng. Currently serving time in San Quentin
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Ng’s Driver License
Leonard Lake

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Shout Outs

In the Dark Podcast, Season Two. Curtis Flowers, a black man in a small town in Mississippi, has spent 21 years fighting for his life, and the DA has spent the same time trying to execute him.  

TV show The Rookie













Howard, John (16 June 1985). “Suspected mass killer leaves trail of mystery”. Lawrence Journal-Record. Associated Press. Retrieved 4 July 2016.





True Crime All the Time podcast https://podtail.com/en/podcast/true-crime-all-the-time/ep13-leonard-lake-and-charles-ng/

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